Floating Points, Pharoah Sanders & The London Symphony Orchestra ‎– Promises

Label:
Luaka Bop ‎– 6 80899 0097-1-3
Format:
Vinyl, LP, Album, Limited Edition, 180 Gram
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Tracklist

A Movements 1-5
B Movements 6-9

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Notes

Limited edition on 180 gram vinyl, housed in a die-cut gatefold sleeve, with a 12x12" insert.
180 Gram stickers on the wrapping (front)
Barcode sticker (680899189712) on the wrapping (back) different from the one on the sleeve (680899009713)

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Barcode (Sticker on the wrapping): 680899189712
  • Barcode (Barcode printed on the sleeve): 680899009713
  • Matrix / Runout (Side A runout): Luaka Bop - 0097 - A² CB - 56593 -
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B runout): Luaka Bop - 0097 - B² CB - 56593 -

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Elukkae

Elukkae

November 21, 2021
edited 6 days ago
Listening to my fresh copy which sounds superb. However it is obvious that many turntables will have real difficulties in playing this through cleanly. The pressing is very dynamic and the long notes + thick cluster chords are quite a test for tracking capabilities of the cartridge + arm combo. If the system can't track the grooves, you get bad distortion, especially towards the tail end of each side. Lesser turntables will not manage to play it clean, no matter what. So bed pressing is not always the reason this might sound distorted.
luke_richardson

luke_richardson

November 21, 2021
Loving this album. So happy to finally have the wax.

I have basically all Floating Points records, and 6-7 of Mr Sanders. I’m wondering … what else would the fans here place as recommended listening following Promises?
alistairmackinnon

alistairmackinnon

October 28, 2021

New October 2021 release here in the UK.
It's a beautiful record however there is a great deal of low-level surface noise throughout.
MAD88

MAD88

October 14, 2021

It’s not perfect but is it ruined? The issues with this release seem pretty minor as far as I’m concerned.
DJShuriken75

DJShuriken75

October 14, 2021
Unfortunately I have the same issue with my 180 g copy that others mention, noise and some distortion in the higher frequencies. My heart aches, because it is such a beautiful piece of music, and the label went all the way trying to get it out as an amazing package with greate sleave design and offering a special audiophile edition. Regrettably this quiet music with such a issues makes the record a painful listen. A great copy would be fantastic and being the Sanders head I am, a must. But I can’t just go out buy more expensive copies hoping tgat I don’t run into the same issueso I feel a bit stuck here. Not sure the label can offer any guidance (or replacement).
spooky_fish

spooky_fish

October 14, 2021

New 180 stock in the UK landed this week with poly lined inner, the one I have played with a Rega Exact is quiet and what I would consider a good pressing with no flaws.
tbdrummer2

tbdrummer2

October 10, 2021

Lots of surface noise on mine as well, especially on the quiet sections. Appreciate the transparency from the label… I’ve seen a lot of these in stores so may try a different pressing.
yaluaka

yaluaka

October 6, 2021
Hey all, this is Yale from Luaka Bop. I thought, as there is a lot of discussion here about the pressing quality situation on Promises, that I would try to explain why some things haven't worked out. We are very saddened and sorry to hear that some have received records that are not up to the standard they should be.

Up until now, we used two pressing plants in the world, Pallas in Germany and RTi in California. They are both top tier plants, and I think among the best at pressing vinyl records anywhere.

On some days they did their usual great job and in other days unfortunately they didn't, and often you can trace these bad ones. If you got a good pressing, it's because they did what they should have and I think usually do. If you didn't it's because the specter of Covid, (75% of RTi got Covid at the same time at one point), a shortage of vinyl, a crush of orders for pressing plants everywhere, (turning normal few months turnaround into six months) and the whole chaos of what 2020 and 2021 turned into.

It is now early October, 2021 that I am writing this and we have actually done 7 different pressings throughout this year, as we kept switching out other records we had in the pressing que to press more Promises. There were a few issues with some of the 180’s having flash that was trimmed off the lps falling into the sleeves and getting pressed into a few of the records. But it wasn’t until this last set of pressings that all hell seemed to loosened upon us in terms of warped pressings (mostly U.S. ones, plastic sleeve, from RTi - plus they forgot to put in the inserts!) And noisy pressings (plastic lined paper sleeve mostly from Pallas). I just want to say that I sincerely apologize if your pressing is anything short of what it should be. We are trying one more plant in Europe and hope they will be more consistent.

Let me just add, up till now all 180’s, no matter where you order from were done at Pallas. We will not make more 180’s at this point but we do have enough to satisfy demand till the end of the year.

About the noisy pressings Pallas had this to say:

Good morning everybody,

I forwarded this claim to Pallas and they appologize for the inconviences. After investigation they found out by checking their product samples that a pressing tool contained a scratch at the end of side B. Depending from record player used this could be audible. They checked the record on three different players and with one of them the issue occured. According them about 50 records could be affected, reason for this estimation is, that the record pressed before this certain one does not show this issue and 50 records later the pressing tool was exchanged.

They offer to press 50 records for free with the next run of this record to cover this.

hflax

hflax

October 5, 2021
I guess I got lucky, my copy sounds quiet. Didn't notice much surface noise, if any. Gorgeous recording, a masterpiece in my opinion. Vinyl sounds good!
Trey_A

Trey_A

September 29, 2021
I love the music itself and sound quality is good, but there is a disappointing amount of pops and surface noise throughout the record even after multiple cleanings that I can't get rid of; it's especially noticable during the quiet sections. This is something I'd probably rather have on CD.